"I think that that's what moms are superheroes at, is getting through the day. Even in your not-best-self moment, you can still be a light to someone else even when you don't think you are." Zibby is joined by best friends Catherine Belknap and Natalie Telfer, better known to many as Cat and Nat, to discuss their new book, Cat and Nat's Mom Secrets. The three chat about the importance of finding humor in every day (especially over the past two years), what it was like to cancel so many of their live shows due to the pandemic as well as how they've tended to their community in the meantime, and which projects they're dreaming up next.